Introduction
The carnivore diet has gained popularity in recent years, with proponents claiming various health benefits. However, some individuals on the Carnivore Diet may experience anxiety and other negative symptoms such as feeling of being wired and tired, or even severe insomnia. In this blog post, I’ll share my personal experience with anxiety on the carnivore diet and a theory on why this happens to some people. I’ll also provide some ideas for successfully navigating the carnivore diet in a way that minimizes negative symptoms like anxiety and insomnia.
While I’m not a medical professional, I hope this information sparks a discussion and helps shed light on the potential role of glutamate in causing anxiety. Please comment with any ideas, corrections or insights that you have.
My Personal Experience with The Carnivore Diet and Anxiety
Curiosity led me to test the carnivore diet during the initial Covid-19 lock-downs. Social gatherings were limited, sparing me the awkward conversations about my unique dietary experiment of consuming only animal foods.
However, soon after starting the diet, I encountered unexpected negative effects. Anxiety, and a constant state of being wired replaced the calm I had hoped for. Sleep became elusive, leaving me tired and wired upon waking, reminiscent of the over stimulation caused by excessive caffeine intake. As weeks went by, the situation worsened, leading me to halt the experiment after three weeks.
Because my diet primarily consisted of grass-fed beef, tallow, eggs, and some dairy—a fairly standard carnivore diet—I decided to search for explanations for these symptoms. I eventually developed the following glutamate theory, and I discovered that many others had similar experiences of anxiety on the carnivore diet.
The Glutamate/GABA Balance – Anxiety and calm
The theory I am considering revolves around the balance of glutamate and GABA, important neurotransmitters in the brain. Glutamate is an excitatory neurotransmitter, while GABA is a calming neurotransmitter.
In the past I had done getnetic testing. After reexamining my genetic SNPs, I discovered significant polymorphisms in the GAD1 genes, responsible for converting glutamate to GABA. I suspect individuals with these polymorphisms may struggle more with the carnivore diet due to the higher glutamate levels in many of the foods which are commonly consumed.
An imbalance with high glutamate and low GABA has been associated with various problems, including sleep disturbances, increased blood glucose levels due to elevated cortisol, psychiatric disorders like anxiety and OCD, migraines, diabetes, and neurological conditions.
If you want to know if you have any GAD1 SNPs, consider checking using tools like the Nutrahacker complete mutation report.
Examining Glutamate Content In Foods
To further investigate, I took some time to compile a list of common carnivore and non-carnivore foods and their glutamic acid (glutamate) content per 100 calories. Not surprisingly, many of the foods I was consuming on the carnivore diet were high in glutamic acid. Interestingly, many of the carnivore foods recommended by the carnivore community to alleviate the anxiety, wired/tired problem, such as fat, eggs, butter, and cream, had lower glutamic acid content. Incorporating more of these foods moderately improved my symptoms. Meats like fish, turkey, shrimp, beef, and poultry tend to be higher in glutamic acid.
I find it interesting to consider the staple diets of various cultures before the advent of Western processed foods. It appears to me that even cultures whose diets were closest to the modern carnivore diet consumed foods that could offset the intake of high-glutamate foods. Take, for instance, the Inuit; although their diet predominantly consisted of animal foods, they consumed a significant amount of animal fats, which are much lower in glutamate compared to muscle meat. This may have helped balanced their consumption of high glutamate foods. Another example to consider is the Maasai. While their diet was predominantly meat-based, it also included a substantial amount of milk, which has significantly lower glutamate levels.
I will include the charts of glutamic acid in foods at the end of this post. However, it’s important to note that some publicly available databases may have slight disagreements, making the information not entirely precise. Nevertheless, the charts should provide a good idea of the types of foods that have the highest glutamic acid content. This will allow you to experiment with lower glutamate carnivore foods to see if it helps to reduce your anxiety and insomnia.
The Impact of Free Glutamate
It’s important to understand the concept of “free glutamate.” Glutamic acid converts into free glutamate, which is easily absorbed and can act as an excitatory neurotransmitter. Cooking and aging increase free glutamate levels. Slow cooking, in particular, seems to be problematic, but even aged, uncooked meat can have high levels of free glutamate. Aging beef enhances flavor and tenderness but unfortunately increases free glutamate. Additionally, if you thaw meat in the fridge before cooking, it further elevates free glutamate levels. Fatter cuts of meat have lower glutamate levels, as fat has very little glutamate. This might explain why some people report feeling better on higher-fat cuts of conventional, grain-fed meat.
Considering Glycine
Glycine is often recommended to balance the consumption of muscle meats which are high in Methionine. However, from my research and personal experience, glycine may exacerbate the effects of a high glutamate/GABA imbalance. If your glutamate/GABA ratio is already high, glycine might intensify the excitatory effects of glutamate. Some argue that this excitotoxicity also leads to brain cell death. Foods high in glycine include muscle meats, while fat, butter, cream, and dairy tend to be lower in glycine content. In general the patter is that foods high in glutamate are also hig in glycine.
Ideas for Balancing Glutamate Levels
- Mind Your Diet: Consume more low glutamic acid foods and less high glutamic acid foods. For more information, refer to the charts provided at the bottom of this post. The foods toward to bottom of the list are important to focus on eating if you are dealing with anxiety.
- Cooking and Aging: Reduce your intake of slow-cooked and aged meats. Opt for rare-cooked meats since cooking and aging can raise free glutamate levels. Inquire with your butcher about the duration of meat aging before butchering and their aging methods.
- Exercise: Engaging in regular physical activity may help reduce glutamate levels in the brain.
- Eat More Fat: Incorporate healthy saturated animal fats into your diet, as they have lower glutamic acid levels.
- Front-load Glutamate Consumption: Consume glutamate-rich foods earlier in the day rather than towards evening. This may help you avoid the overstimulating effects of glutamate when it’s time to sleep.
- Prompt Meat Cooking: Minimize the time meat spends in the fridge before cooking to avoid increasing free glutamate levels.
- Moderate Bone Broth Consumption: Avoid long-simmered bone broth, which may contain higher glutamate and glycine levels.
- Exercise Caution with Supplements: If you are prone to high glutamate levels, avoid those containing glycine, such as Magnesium Glycinate, TMG (Tri-Methylglycine), Betaine, Collagen, or any supplements bound to glycine (Check for glycinate, bisglycinate, trimethylglycine, etc., on the bottle).
Conclusion
I found my experiment with the carnivore diet to be very interesting and insightful since it helped me to learn a lot about myself and glutamate. While I don’t plan to adopt the carnivore diet, I firmly believe that animal protein is a cornerstone of a healthy diet, offering nutrient density, excellent bioavailability, low toxin content, and easy digestibility.
While I don’t claim to have all the answers, I hope sharing my experiences as a grass-fed beef farmer and nutrition enthusiast sparks a discussion. The potential impact of glutamate causing anxiety and other problems on individuals following the carnivore diet is an important topic to consider. Remember, I’m not a medical expert, so it’s crucial to consult with a healthcare professional before making any significant dietary changes. If you’ve had similar experiences or have insights to share, I welcome your feedback. Let’s engage in this discussion to promote better health and well-being for all.
Carnivore Foods – Glutamic Acid High to Low (grams per 100 calories)*
Food | Glutamic Acid grams per 100 calories |
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Cod | 3.57 |
Turkey – Light Meat | 3.53 |
Shrimp | 3.33 |
Pollock | 3.28 |
Lobster | 3.18 |
Blue Crab | 3.17 |
Tilapia | 3.03 |
Turkey – Dark Meat | 2.91 |
Chicken Breast | 2.89 |
Beef – Chuck | 2.70 |
Brisket | 2.61 |
Beef – Top Sirloin | 2.44 |
Bison – Ground | 2.37 |
Clams | 2.35 |
Chicken Thigh | 2.26 |
Scallops | 2.22 |
Salmon | 2.13 |
Cheese – Parmesan | 2.07 |
Beef Liver | 1.92 |
Duck Breast | 1.92 |
Duck – Leg | 1.90 |
Ground Beef 90/10 | 1.90 |
Sardines | 1.78 |
Beef – Ribeye | 1.70 |
Beef – Tbone | 1.64 |
Pork Loin | 1.61 |
Oysters | 1.59 |
Cheese – Mozzarella | 1.53 |
Chuck Roast | 1.50 |
Ground Beef 70/30 | 1.48 |
Squid | 1.48 |
Cheese – Colby | 1.43 |
Cheese – Cheddar | 1.22 |
Lamb – Leg | 1.21 |
Whole Milk | 1.14 |
Yogurt | 1.14 |
Bacon | 1.07 |
Eggs | 0.88 |
Beef Brain | 0.78 |
Beef Shortribs | 0.70 |
Heavy Whipping Cream | 0.12 |
Beef Suet | 0.04 |
Pork Fat – Leaf | 0.04 |
Butter | 0.00 |
Non-Carnivore Foods – Glutamic Acid High to Low (grams per 100 calories)*
Food | Glutamic Acid per 100 calories |
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Asparagus | 2.66 |
Tomatoes | 2.26 |
Soybeans – Green Raw | 1.65 |
Broccoli – Boiled | 1.59 |
Mushrooms – White Raw | 1.42 |
Spaghetti – Noodles | 1.35 |
cabbage | 1.27 |
Wheat Flour – White | 1.17 |
Sourdough Bread | 1.17 |
Beets | 1.13 |
okra | 1.07 |
carrots | 1.05 |
Almonds – Dry Roasted | 1.03 |
Pinto Beans | 1.02 |
Black Beans | 1.01 |
Peas | 0.97 |
Oats | 0.96 |
Pretzels – Hard | 0.92 |
White Bread – Commercial | 0.90 |
Squash | 0.86 |
Peanuts | 0.84 |
Peanuts – Dry Roasted | 0.84 |
Walnuts | 0.83 |
Kale | 0.82 |
Cashews – Raw | 0.82 |
Cheerios | 0.76 |
Corn – Sweet Canned | 0.69 |
Pistachios | 0.68 |
Eggplant | 0.61 |
Raisin Bran | 0.52 |
Potato – Baked | 0.44 |
Corn Flakes | 0.40 |
White Rice | 0.37 |
Froot Loops | 0.37 |
Cinnamon Toast Crunch | 0.36 |
onion | 0.34 |
Ice Cream – Vanilla | 0.26 |
Kiwi | 0.24 |
Coconut Milk | 0.24 |
watermelon | 0.22 |
Coconut Meat | 0.21 |
Potato Chips | 0.20 |
Strawberry | 0.19 |
Banana | 0.19 |
Avacado | 0.19 |
peaches | 0.17 |
oranges | 0.15 |
Beer | 0.13 |
Blueberries | 0.12 |
Sweet Cherries | 0.12 |
Olives | 0.06 |
Raisins | 0.05 |
Apple | 0.00 |
*These charts should be taken with a few grains of salt. I used the data I could find in publicly available databases and not all databases agreed. However, I think a clear picture is presented of the types of foods which are higher in glutamic acid.
Bob says
That was a really good read. I changed to carnavore diet a few months ago. I think my glutamate levels must be off the charts because I virtually find it impossible to sleep and am always wired n tired, anxious etc. I make a very rich cows heel broth..dont add any veges..and it is really – like really jelly-like in its form . I eat about 250ml morning and night in a big bool with my balls of fried mince. Does this broth have an oversupply of glutamate? ..I also eat eggs, cheese and my natural milk kefir…but what can I do to lower glutamates…I have auto immune issues and dont want to change from carnivore…??
Josiah says
I’m am not sure how much glutamate would be in the broth. However, I think that the broth would be very high in glycine which can intensifity the excitatory effects of glutamate.
I listed several ideas of how to lower glutamate in the article, but most of them involve dietary changes. You could try exercise as a strategy to reduce glutamate levels. In hearing how you are eating, I would consider adding fresh raw milk. I think that would be fairly low in glutamate.
Perhaps eating earlier in the day would allow the glutamate to wear off before bed, but I’m not sure. Unfortunately, I don’t have it all figured out, but thought some people would find my research interesting. If you find good solutions, feel free to add them in the comments.
Chloe says
Hi! This is great information and very helpful! My plasma glutamate levels are sky high on carnivore. Just wondering with the measurement of glutamate in food, is that per 100g or per 100 calories?
Josiah says
I”m glad you enjoyed the article. That is per 100 calories.
Andrew says
So glad I found this. I am prone to severe anxiety. I have been doing a carnivore diet but noticed that my anxiety was through the roof lately. Was trying everything to calm down especially breathing exercises. I had a DNA fitness related test done a long time ago which said I was genetically presupposed to be super sensitive to stress. But the same test said that my diet should be 45-55% fat and 25% carb and 25% animal protein. This makes me wonder if its the glutamate connection. I am now modifying to consume more animal fat and low glutatmate foods. Hoping that this will help. Started today. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this – putting these things together might just help me survive.
Josiah says
Wish you the best. I hope this is helpful. I posted it because of my experience and thought it might help others.
Brennan says
Recently started hardcore carnivore with 0 carbs about a week and a half ago and every time i eat i get a severe depersonalization attack and a panic attack. Have been eating grass fed ribeye and new york strip steaks, grilled chicken legs/thighs/wings some nights. The attacks slowly wear off but the depersonalization is still consistent and mild when i don’t eat, could this be due to high glutamate? Was having bad mental health issues before i started this diet which is why i started it in the first place, so this is very stressful for me im so confused.
Josiah says
I’m certainly no expert in these areas, but I definitely had an increase in anxiety when on Carnivore. A quick google search seems to show some research about possible links between increased glutamate levels and depersonalization, so it certainly seem possible.
It’s worth experimenting with a lower glutamate diet to see if that helps for you. For me 3 meals a day with plenty of protein, but also fruits, vegetables and moderate carbohydrates seems to be the best for my mental health. I’ve also added in some bifido probiotics, which may help as well since they help with GABA production.
If the carnivore diet doesn’t work for you, then I see no reason to stick with it. Animal foods are certainly critical in a healthy diet, but I don’t have a problem with many plant foods.
Rachel says
Thank you so much for sharing this, I am on my third attempt at carnivore and I have had to quit every time because of severe insomnia and anxiety due to the diet. I lasted 4 months the first time and it was rough and everyone just kept saying it will get better….. it never did and I have tried 2 more times and nothing I do helps the insomnia and anxiety. When I see people raving about how good they feel I’m like wow wish that was me! I still eat mostly muscle meat but I do have carbs and I’m able to sleep so much better.
Josiah says
You’re welcome Rachel. Thanks for the comment. Sounds like your experience is much like mine. Did you find the charts helpful?